(Q&A quoted from DCPro UCP 600 Discussion Forum 23 – 27 Jan 2015)
QUESTION
Bank A issues a usance L/C (say 90 days after B/L date) available by negotiation/acceptance with any bank with draft drawn on the issuing bank (reimbursement to be effected by the issuing bank at maturity against a complying presentation). The L/C does not ask for confirmation thereof, and hence is not confirmed by the beneficiary’s bank (Bank X).
Exporter makes a complying presentation to Bank X and requests them to negotiate/discount the export bill before the draft and documents are sent to the issuing bank.
Questions:
i. If the term draft is drawn on the issuing bank (negotiation L/C), can Bank X negotiate/discount the draft presented by its customer before it is accepted by the issuing bank ?
- If the term draft is drawn on the issuing bank (acceptance L/C), can Bank X negotiate/discount the draft presented by its customer before it is accepted by the issuing bank ?
Regards,
Shahed
———
ANSWER
Stone fish in my garden pond
Dear Shahed,
In addition to the 4 common types of LC, which includes: (1) LC available by negotiation of draft at sight; (2) LC available by payment (no sight draft is required); (3) LC available by acceptance of draft at xxx days sight/after BL date; and (4) LC available by deferred payment (no time draft is required), we sometimes come across their varieties one of which is LC available by negotiation of a time draft drawn on the issuing bank.
Can the nominated negotiating bank negotiate a draft at xxx days sight/after BL date before it is accepted by the issuing bank?
My answer is yes, based on the following reasoning:
According to Article 2 UCP 600, negotiation is defined as the purchase by the nominated bank of drafts (drawn on a bank other than the nominated bank) and/or documents under a complying presentation, by advancing or agreeing to advance funds to the beneficiary on or before the banking day on which reimbursement is due to the nominated bank.
It is understood from the above definition that the nominated negotiating bank can negotiate any draft irrespective of draft at sight or draft at xxx days sight/after BL date, and irrespective of whether or not the draft is accepted by the issuing bank. The nominated bank can also negotiate documents presented under the negotiation LC which does not require presentation of drafts. If the documents are complying the nominated negotiating bank is entitled to the issuing bank’s reimbursement when due.
Where the LC is available with the issuing bank by acceptance of draft, it is obvious that the issuing bank does not authorize any bank to negotiate/discount the not yet – accepted draft. Therefore, the bank that has negotiated the not yet-accepted draft may be exposed to the risk of non-reimbursement from the issuing bank as it cannot take any legal action against the issuing bank on its name.
So, my short answers to your questions are as follows:
- Yes
- Should not.
Kind regards,
N.H.Duc
——-
QUESTION
Thanks.
But I also like to know what would be the scenario of “Deferred Payment” L/C?
Can a nominated bank negotiate/discount the export bill prior to issuing bank’s acceptance of documents?
It may be mentioned that there is no draft required under a deferred payment L/C.
Regards,
Shahed
——–
ANSWER
Hi Shahed,
Where the LC is available with a nominated bank by deferred payment, then in accordance with sub-article 12 (b) that nominated bank may discount its own deferred payment undertaking.
Where the LC is available with the issuing bank by deferred payment and the issuing bank has not yet incurred a deferred payment undertaking, the presenting bank, which is not a nominated bank, is not authorized to discount the documents. Even when the issuing bank has incurred its deferred payment undertaking and so communicated to the presenting bank, the presenting bank should ask for the issuing bank’s authorization to discount if it intends to discount the deferred payment undertaking. Please note that deferred payment undertaking is not world wide recognized as an financial instrument that is negotiable.
Kind regards,
N.H.Duc
P/s: Please note that where an LC is available with the issuing bank by deferred payment, there is no nominated bank. The bank that presents the documents to the issuing bank on behalf of the beneficiary is the presenting bank (and not nominated bank).
Ms. Wonder
October 20, 2017 at 9:41 am
1.If the term draft is drawn on the nominated bank (acceptance L/C), can Bank X negotiate/discount the draft presented by its customer before it is accepted by the issuing bank ?
2.Is it possible for presenting bank to discount after accept MT752 from issuing bank ? Issuing bank informed the discrepancy and advised that appliant have already accepted and therefore inform us the maturity date to us (presenting bank).
mroldman
October 20, 2017 at 10:38 am
Hi Ms. Wonder,
1) If the draft under acceptance L/C is drawn on the nominated bank, it is understood that the L/C is available with the nominated bank by acceptance. It is the nominated bank and not the issuing bank that will accept the draft.
Bank X in this case is not a nominated bank but a presenting bank, hence, it is not authorized by the issuing bank to negotiate/discount the accepted or not yet accepted draft. It can negotiate/discount at its risk.
2) The presenting bank is not the nominated bank, hence, it is not authorized under UCP 600 to discount the draft accepted by the issuing bank, let alone MT 752.
Kind regards,
Mr. Old Man
Ms. Wonder
October 20, 2017 at 2:21 pm
In case of ‘Lc available with nominated bank by acceptance’
1) If the draft under acceptance L/C is drawn on the nominated bank, it is understood that the L/C is available with the nominated bank by acceptance. It is the nominated bank will accept the draft, advise maturity date to beneficiary and send the document to issuing bank and wait issuing bank to pay at maturity, is my concept correct?
If Bank X is the nominated bank, in this case whether this nominated bank is allowed to negotiate/discount the draft presented by its customer before it is accepted by the issuing bank if it is a clean bill?
2) In case, it is a disccrepancy bill. nominated bank will not accept the draft, right ? Nominated bank will then send the docs to issuing bank accordingly. Issuing bank then examine the document and inform us the discrepancies and finally send us MT752. At this moment, is it possible for nominated bank to discount after MT752 advised from issuing bank ?
As I know there are some banks, will discount the bills after received MT752 from issuing bank, as the bill is accepted by the issuing bank and mustpay at maturity, and therefore will then discount the bill and pay to beneficiary.
I am not sure whether it is common in many banks or it is just exist in particular bank only.
mroldman
October 20, 2017 at 11:16 pm
Hi,
1) If the L/C is available with the nominated bank by acceptance, the nominated bank that agrees to act on its nomination will honour a complying presentation, i.e., accept the draft and pay at maturity, and claim reimbursement from the issuing bank.
(It is noted that the nominated bank must pay at maturity irrespective of whether or not the issuing bank pays or reimburses the nominated bank).
If Bank X is the nominated bank and the presentation is complying it must accept the draft and in accordance with sub-article 12 (b) it can discount the draft accepted by itself. The issuing bank does no accept the draft but shall reimburse Bank X.
2) In case the presentation is not complying and the nominated bank does not accept the draft but forward the documents to the issuing bank for acceptance, the nominated bank is deemed not to have acted on its nomination and it is acting just as a presenting bank.
Where the discrepancies are waived and the issuing bank accepts to pay sending by MT 752 to the presenting bank, the presenting bank may agree with the beneficiary to discount the issuing bank’s payment undertaking on its own risk and on a with or without recourse basis since now it is no longer the nominated bank and therefore it is not protected by UCP 600.
Kind regards,
Mr. Old Man
Ms. Wonder
October 23, 2017 at 9:46 am
Thanks a lot for your informations…. so helpful ~~ ^-^