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FOB, CFR, CIF vs. Container Shipments: Why Theory and Practice Don’t Always Match

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August 24, 2025
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Intro Dear friends, one of the recurring debates in Incoterms is whether FOB, CFR and CIF should ever be used for containerized shipments. The theory says “no,” but in practice, traders and banks keep using them every day without issue. Let’s look at why the theory clashes with practice, and what happens with FCL and LCL cargoes. _________ Question One …

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LC Amendment at the Last Minute: Can an Overdrawn Invoice Still Be Covered?

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August 24, 2025
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Intro Dear friends, sometimes in trade finance we face the “extra cargo” problem: the ship takes a little more than expected, the invoice comes out higher than the LC value, and the documents are presented. The question is—can the LC still be amended at this stage? Let’s unpack this based on UCP 600 and ICC practice. _______ Question Sir, What …

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When Transferred LC Errors Threaten Payment: Who Bears the Risk?

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August 22, 2025
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Intro: In trade finance, mistakes by a transferring bank can create tricky situations for the second beneficiary. A common issue arises when an insurance requirement under a transferred LC is incorrectly stated, potentially putting payment at risk. Let’s look at a practical example and clarify who is responsible. ___________ QUESTION Dear Mr. Old Man, Consider the following scenario: The agreed …

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Flight Date vs. AWB Issue Date: Which Marks the Shipment?

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August 22, 2025
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Intro: In trade finance, determining the exact shipment date can be trickier than it seems—especially when an air waybill shows different dates in various fields. A common question is whether a “flight date” noted in the AWB can be treated as the actual date of shipment under UCP 600 and ISBP 821. Let’s explore a real-life example. QUESTION Dear Mr. …

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Port-to-Port or Multimodal? When the LC Plays Tricks

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August 22, 2025
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Intro Letters of credit can sometimes read like riddles—especially when issuing banks mix up transport fields. A common source of confusion is whether an LC is asking for a straightforward port-to-port shipment or a multimodal one. The distinction matters because the rules (and risks of discrepancies) change depending on which UCP article applies. In this Q&A, Dom shares an LC …

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When a Late Instalment Doesn’t Kill the LC

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August 22, 2025
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In trade finance, timing is everything—especially when an LC requires shipments by instalments. But what happens if one instalment is shipped late and the bank decides to pay anyway? Does that wipe out the next instalments under Article 32 of UCP 600? Let’s look at a real scenario. ______ QUESTION Dear Mr. Old Man, We issued an LC that stipulates …

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CPBL Signed by Agent for the Carrier: When a Captain’s Name Doesn’t Save the Day

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August 20, 2025
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Sometimes in trade finance, documents try to be “too smart.” A CPBL signature is one of those tricky places: a small change of words can decide if documents are compliant or discrepant. Let’s look at a real case from Ms. Woo. QUESTION Dear Mr. Old Man, Good day. Customer has presented a Charter Party Bill of Lading (CPBL). The LC …

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IS TORONTO A SEAPORT?

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August 20, 2025
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In trade finance, banks are sometimes tempted to play detective when they see something that doesn’t look “geographically correct.” But under UCP 600, their role is not to check maps or shipping routes—it’s to examine documents on their face. A recent question about whether Toronto can be treated as a “port of discharge” illustrates this point well. QUESTION Dear Mr. …

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Earliest Date Rules: Which Shipment Date Counts for Presentation under ISBP 821?

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August 19, 2025
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Intro: In documentary credit practice, shipment dates play a critical role in determining whether a presentation is timely. Questions often arise when multiple charter party bills of lading are involved, especially when they carry different shipment dates under a single presentation. Rohini recently wrote in with a scenario on partial shipments and differing dates of shipment. Let’s look at the …

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When “Approval Basis” Presentations Come Up – UCP or URC?

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August 18, 2025
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Intro In practice, not every LC presentation is textbook perfect. Sometimes banks and beneficiaries face the tricky situation of discrepant documents. A recurring question in trade finance circles is: If a nominated bank forwards documents “on approval,” is that still under UCP, or should it instead be treated as a documentary collection under URC? And a follow-up question naturally arises: …

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